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With Max Verstappen's third Formula 1 world title sealed, The Race F1 Podcast takes a deep dive into the 2023 champion's mindset.
Special guest Erik van Haren from Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf joins Mark Hughes and Edd Straw to discuss Verstappen's rise, performances and attitude to his racing future, F1 itself and his team and team-mates.
They explore whether he's changing how F1 greatness is measured and the extent to which he might be outperforming this year's Red Bull.
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